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Who can Rebuild Labour?

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3 years ago by Rahul N. in Current > Politics

From today's meetings it was clear that a fresh positive business friendly approach is needed, with a powerful leader to drive the party forward. Who should that be?

1 Andy Burnham. Trade Union man, 45, former shadow health secretary.
2 Chuka Ammuna. 36, Former shadow business secretary, Lawyer.
3 Liz Kendall, 43 shadow health minister in last government, known as a more right-wing Blairite.
4 Yvette Cooper, 46, shadow home secretary, wife of disgraced Ed Balls.
5 Alan Johnson. Popular and experienced but it seems he is unwilling to take the job on.
6 Dan Jarvis, former army officer, former shadow justice minister.

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Charlie H

I dunno why Burnham is listed first. He'll be more of the same - old school labour - and `i think that enough people in the party will be guarded against that. If not then they're a bunch of blind lemmings.

3 years ago by Charlie H

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Iam LmnOP

Chuka Ammuna is the only bloke who can do it. Yound, smart charismatic and (still) scandal free.

3 years ago by Iam LmnOP

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Nicole C

I would do anything to be a spectator in the Labour house cleaning meetings.

3 years ago by Nicole C

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Rahul  N.

That would never last Nicole. They'd insist on your counsel :)

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Rahul  N.

Dan Jarvis just excluded himself from the race

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Pete Davies

Yea and liz kendall & yvette cooper are definitely running.

3 years ago by Pete Davies

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Braden  Kelly

Alan Johnson would be my pick. They should call on him.

3 years ago by Braden Kelly

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Rahul  N.

Sensible words from DM

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Br0dude

dey need 2 get back in2 d real world. seems like there policies r made in some office, they need t be aware of what young ppl think. used 2 b that labor was somthn young ppl related 2, but now all they wet takin abt was stuff like the nhs. most ppl of my generation r not thinking bout the nhs but careers & money and opportunities.

3 years ago by Br0dude

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Selena  Roberts

It's a tricky thing. When new Labour came, it was a fresh idea, albeit with a few holes built into it. To revisit that would seem like a bit of a recovery ploy. New Labour is now old Labour guard. Continuing with the present agenda is of course also no option. New strategies are not born overnight, and when they are they usually don't set the world on fire.

3 years ago by Selena Roberts

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Rahul  N.

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Tracey Howell

He seems like a guy who can rock the boat a bit…..a credible contender

3 years ago by Tracey Howell

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that-acorn-girl

Some boats need t b rocked, some boats need t b blown up

3 years ago by that-acorn-girl

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Nicole C

Oh hohok..!? Are you talking about your plans for the labour party?

3 years ago by Nicole C

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Rahul  N.

Andy Burnham & Chuka Ummuna. It'll be between these two mainly I expect. And the decision will be Sept.

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Linda Wilson

Burnham now is a shoe-in for the role. They are now billing him as the Change candidate which only tells me they are all too aware that he needs to shed his Old Labour image as quickly as possible. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/andy-burnham-inevitable

3 years ago by Linda Wilson

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Iam LmnOP

Can't fool us. I'm not keen on Burnham I always thought him a bit woody.

3 years ago by Iam LmnOP

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M.  Hughes

The leader that will put Labour back on the map may not even be on the political horizon yet. Some feel that Umunna was the golden boy that ran off through the back door, but that notion is mere speculation. Big ideas, open minds and a good dose of realism is what Labour needs to put the pieces together before a future leader emerges.

3 years ago by M. Hughes

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Rahul  N.

Andy Burnham's £17.000 London flat claim may well trip him up, hard to say right now. Personally I think that D. Miliband will return to do some reclaiming in a year or two.

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Mitchell Hill

That would be two of the top contenders taken out in that case. It's fast becoming a game of ten little monkeys (and then there were none).

3 years ago by Mitchell Hill

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Sagalicious

David Miliband wants to return really. His heart is in England. But he is a smart man and he will wait.

3 years ago by Sagalicious

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Pete Davies


Eddie's back with an actual funny joke (not his)

3 years ago by Pete Davies

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pig in the rain

Only David Miliband has any real chance. It would be a great story, Dave returns (Part III: the Revenge) the ultimate family saga.

3 years ago by pig in the rain

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Nicole C

Im so for Jeremy Corbyn. Finally a candidate that you can halfway believe in. So far I respect him on his stand on the war, on his record with his expenses and on his policy votes. Burnham and other are already having night mares. HA!

3 years ago by Nicole C

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Rahul  N.

No way man, he's an old style socialist, and that move has had its day. The only way to form an alternative to the Tories is a modern party that can convince business and industry and the private sector. He sings the old song of 'there are more poor people, it's all gotten worse, we are for the poor". That thing does not work anymore because the public knows that it just means more spending instead of income generation.

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Rahul  N.

(and it's CoRbyn)

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Nobody can eat 50 eggs

That's an Oxymoron bruv.

3 years ago by Nobody can eat 50 eggs

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Rahul  N.

All labour can be under Corbyn is a pressure group, a populist pressure group, whilst it should be the governing party. Labour can be a fairer deal for everyone but in electing a leader you have to look at the political landscape and the political climate and you need to provide a realistic answer not just an ideological one. He won't make it anyway what am I worried about.

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Nicole C

There's only 1 candidate who is bold enough to scrap Uni fees, and get young people from under their £40K or £50K debt. Here is one guy who was an activist an does not take bull from anyone, and who practices what he says. And he's getting a huge surge of support within the party. Better than a political animal any day.

3 years ago by Nicole C

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Linda Wilson

Jeremy Corbyn I don't think will make it. He is too dour and finger wagging to have any positive appeal. Plus nobody wants to work with him within the party. That came across clearly in the leadership debate.

3 years ago by Linda Wilson

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robbie_t

Oh he has about 43% in the latest polls, he should make it comfortably.

3 years ago by robbie_t

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voice-of-reason

This is now a circus that rivals the UKIP meltdown two months ago.
Statement from some Labour MPs: "We cannot just allow our party, a credible party of government, to be hijacked in this summer of madness. There would be no problem in getting names. We could do this before Christmas"

3 years ago by voice-of-reason

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Nicole C

Summer of Madness. What nonsense. The madness was in electing the Tory government.

3 years ago by Nicole C

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Keep D Change

The problem with all this is that there is no alternative. Corbyn has some character and that's what people gravitate to. Is he a very smart choice? Probably not, he's a bit of a dinosaur really. Interesting bloke but i think he's too old school.

3 years ago by Keep D Change

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Nicole C

I seem to be the lone voice, it doesn't bother me. Are you even listening to the policies? Corbyn's ideas are about limiting the expense, investing in industry and collecting the enormous amounts of tax are are now going unpaid because of offshore tax havens. That is why he gets the votes. Part of Labour and all of the Tories are too busy cosying up to big business to care about the country or the people.

3 years ago by Nicole C

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Rahul  N.

I'm worried. This episode can split the party right down the middle or cause a massive exodus. People may be tired of BAU but they also need to be pragmatic. Jeremy C. is no future PM. If the person is no future PM then don't elect them add party leader!!

3 years ago by Rahul N.

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Braden  Kelly

I totally undrstand people routing for Jeremy Corbyn. He's got some integrity and its the one people desperately want. They feel that he's not going to shaft them, not another Tory lite politico who can be bought. Its a good sign for our country, Britain wants some reality

3 years ago by Braden Kelly

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Selena  Roberts

I'm not Labour, but I have a keen interest in all National Politics. My main issue is with his plans to re-nationalise services. I'm baffled.

3 years ago by Selena Roberts

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Br0dude

she gets a lot of flack but don't she half ask 4 it..

3 years ago by Br0dude

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Selena  Roberts

It's slightly off pitch

3 years ago by Selena Roberts

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